Climate scientist and writer Joëlle Gergis speaks about the incalculable loss already suffered due to climate change and why the only way forward is to acknowledge the grief rather than ignore it.

This interview with Joëlle Gergis is based on an essay she has written for the Fire, Flood and Plague anthology series. You can read it here or buy it in an anthology published by Penguin Random House.

Listen to the interview on The Guardian website, featuring Dr Joelle Gergis